one month in now and the president's health care law is still down and out. welcome, everyone. i'm neil cavuto. early enrollment numbers are looking more than just dismal. they're getting frantic about it. word just today that some top hospitals are opting out. even if they fix this website, you cannot fix all of these other problems that go way beyond the website. doctor, this sounds to me the most alarming development of all. explain. >> absolutely, neil. thanks so much for having me. so, you know, the president's called in some google executives

but the glitches are really a side show and the problems with obama care, the problems with the exchanges, they really can't be fixed by google and this raises several points. weren't they supposed to have the tech experts making the website to begin with and if they couldn't do it in 3 1/2 years, how are they supposed to do it in one month as the president has promised? >> what does that mean? you seem to be saying the tech site -- delays notwithstanding, the hospitals that don't want to be part of it or even the cleveland clinic where weeks earlier they had 3,000 workers because of it. this seems to be >> absolutely. i think the worst is yet to come. you know, what we've seen is there's already been 2 million insurance cancellations thus far. to be honest, it affects me

personally. >> how so? >> well, my mom had health insurance, plan for quite some time. she was very happy with what she had. she liked what she had. recently unfortunately she just lost her policy. she's very distressed about it. she's very frustrated about it. and she's looked into these exchanges and it's higher deductib deductibles, higher cost, less access and worst care and, you know, again this is not just happening to her. we've heard in the state of connecticut where we live that this is happening to a lot of people and 2 million people thus far but let's not forget -- >> if you don't mind, that 2 million is the big development i heard today. that figure was mentioned. we're trying to get confirmation of that. it would fly in the face of those champion the health care law that they are the exception and not the rule that folks we talked to that had a policy denied or coverage canceled or

transitioned as they say are relatively small. you're saying that the problems are more the rule than the exception? >> absolutely. i can tell you from personal experience with my mom again that is not the case. i think we have to take a step back and really the worst is yet to come. they delayed the employer mandate. once that starts kicking in, you know, who knows how many people are going to lose their coverage, how many people are going to get dumped into the exchanges. a former cbo director predicted that potentially 40 million people could lose health insurance. there was a study that found that 30% to 50% who get their insurance through their employers could lose it as a result of this law. this is really scary stuff. i think we also have to remember that there was never any clamor to reform health insurance. 90% approximately had health insurance in this country and 83% have rated their coverage as

good or excellent. most people had insurance. they liked what they had. and now they're getting dumped into these exchanges that will be plagued by higher costs and limited access. >> thank you very much. again, i want to bring you up to date on these developments. they change the way this has been portrayed as just a few bad apples in what is otherwise a healthy health care bushel. it has changed how this is going to be discussed and worked out. these aren't just folks transitioning as administration says to other plans. they're not getting those plans and those lucky enough to find such plans are paying a boat load more money for them. it's not just the president who promised you to keep the health care plan. a lot of top democrats said the same. remember this? >> it not only means making sure you can keep your family's doctor or keep your health care plan if you like it, but also that you can afford to do so. >> we're going to put in any legislation considered by the

house and senate the protection of you as an individual to keep the health insurance you have if that's what you want. >> if you like what you have, you will be able to keep it. mr. president, let me say this again. if you like what you have when our legislation is passed and signed by our president, you will be able to keep it. >> in fact, we guarantee it. >> well 2 million folks are discovering otherwise. 2 million. our next guest is one of them. an 11-year cancer survivor. very happy with her health care plan when she had it. now she's being told she's got to give it up because of the health care law. amazing. first of all, how are you doing now? healthwise? >> i'm doing wonderful. i'm a very proud and grateful breast cancer survivor and i'm very concerned about my health care and health care of all survivors. >> i'm glad you're well.

now comes the nuisance factor that could make anyone sick and tell me what you encountered. >> okay. i currently have a blue cross blue shield ppo 80/20 plan. it has been affordable to me and i want to reiterate that. i want to say that one more time. it's been affordable. i have been happy with it. and now i'm being told it's substandard. >> substandard means that with the new requirements the government has to cover pre-existing conditions, to cover more folks, they have to be brought up to speed and that doesn't come cheap. to keep up with that you're going to have to charge more and in your case how much more were they talking? >> my premium is going from 363 to 713.

my deductible is going from 1750 to 3250. i want to talk about essential health care benefits. when i contacted blue cross blue shield, they told me that the reason that i no longer had the right to choose to stay with my plan as i was told i did is because i wasn't being grandfathered in with a date of march 23, 2010, when the affordable care act was signed into law. they told me that they were migrating quote/unquote into the health care marketplace. i view this as a loss of my right. >> migrating is the word they use. they were using transition. they were transitioning into a government plan. those that are for this health care law, say folks like you -- the minority and not the majority -- they insist that with subsidies and everything

else, you will end up paying about the same if not less. do you qualify for the subsidy? >> okay. i want to say this for the middle class. myself and the middle class. i worked hard my entire life so i wouldn't be a burden on the system. i want to continue to work hard as a baby boomer well past the age of 65. i believe in this country giving me a right to do that. why do i want to go to a health care marketplace and take a subsidy which would further burden this country. i work with low-income seniors. i'm an advocate for them. i fight for their rights. i'm fighting for my rights right now. i want to continue to retain what is affordable to me. that part of what is going on with health care wasn't broke, okay? we were trying to get coverage for people that did not have health care. it does not make sense. two wrongs don't make a right. you do not cripple the middle class with no safety net and make them part of the bigger problem to get everyone to have

health care. >> now, your views on subsidies notwithstanding and they are admirable, would you even qualify for them. we had a couple folks yesterday who had policies rejected and thrown on new ones that they are told they have to pay more who says their income level would not qualify them for any sort of relief so they're going to pay higher prices whether they like it or not. >> and that's horrible. i can't even find the verbiage to describe that. the bottom line is that why are we tending to put people into a category that have functioned. i worked my whole life. i paid for my insurance. i've been fortunate to do that. i come from a very old school ethic which is all of the seniors i serve. my parents taught me a work ethic. i have been fortunate to apply that work ethic to my life to pay for my insurance. it was affordable for me right now. as of january 1st it's no longer affordable. that's what i want to say here.

who is accountable and who will take action to fix what is unaffordable in this health care act. the act says it itself. i'm not seeing it. it's not just affecting me. it's affecting tons of people. what is the word you used? this is rarity? >> the exception. they say you're the exception. real quickly about your plan, whether they warned you this could come or whether they said we're not quite sure that the plan and the benefits we provide to you can continue under the new health care law once it's up and running. were you given any sort of heads-up or did this just come out of the blue? >> this came out of the blue and interesting thing is because i do work in federal state benefits, i kind of knew it was coming. when i did contact them, they said, well, a letter will come out to you. i believe -- i can check my facts, i contacted them before october 1st. i didn't get the letter -- i

will double-check so i give accurate information -- i don't think i received the first letter until after october 1st. there was no forewarning here. i was under the impression because i have some knowledge that i actually was going to be able to keep my privately held insurance. okay. so there was no warning. there was no warning not just given to me but tons of people. so, you know, we are not the exception. i'm here telling the american public the truth as it was not told to me. okay. i believe in that. >> wow. just hang in there. i would like to talk to people like you because i think you're right there in the front lines dealing with this and it's not the way it's being portrayed in the mainstream media or those pushing this law. there are more like you than we've been told. diane, i wish you well certainly continued good health. you overcame a heck of a scare there. i hope there are no more to come. thank you, diane. >> neil, can i say one more

thing before we close? i want to read one thing. president obama said and i quote, we will keep this promise to the american people. if you like your health care plan, you will be able to keep your health care plan. period. i took him at his word. thank you, neil. i appreciate it. >> wow. diane, thank you very much. okay. when the going gets tough, just get going. embattled health and human services secretary kathleen sebelius is on the road again today making a stop in memphis to promote what appears to be a very beleaguered health care law. rich is in washington with more. >> good afternoon, neil. she's addressing this report released by house government and oversight reform committee. republicans there citing a document from the administration and contractors after the first day that healthcare.gov went live saying six people enrolled in obama care. only six on day one approximately 100 on the second day according to this document and fewer than 248 on the second

day. some of the problems with the website high capacity they said, direct enrollment not working, va system not connecting, only six enrollments occurred so far with five different issuers. hhs secretary kathleen sebelius said they still don't have those numbers. >> i don't know what numbers were gathered to get the first two days of enrollment and where they came from and if it is federal enrollment or state enrollment, but we will be giving comprehensive figures about nationwide enrollment who is in the federal marketplace, who is in the state level, once a month and we'll give people reliable information and have them be able to count on it. >> reporter: more calls from congress from house ways and means committee chairman who wants the numbers by close of business today. doesn't sound like we'll get them. neil? >> all right. thank you very much. i know i sound like a broken

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after the rollout, are we now quickly seeing the political fallout? virginia's gubernatorial race getting tighter. ken cuccinelli behind terry mccaulliffe.

is any of this a coincidence? what do you make of all of these crosscurrents? >> the shutdown hurt cuccinelli. no doubt about it. a lot of government employees, contractors in virginia but at the same time this obama care website bedbackal is hurting mccauliffe. we have seen most of the polls showing him well ahead and then it's starteniing to tighten. they think that he has this thing and that cuccinelli is not worth to show up at the polls so republicans feel like they could make a comeback here. it's a tough road for cuccinelli no doubt about it. that as you mentioned is why democrats are bringing out big guns to make sure people show up at the polls. >> you think about this. if it's a shutdown that

adversely hit republican cuccinelli in this case talking about a lot of government workers, they have very good health plans for many of them. would they be as adversely affected by this health care thing as we're lead to believe and benefits for cuccinelli could be quite limited. >> there is that element. if you have lost your health insurance or one of those people that maybe didn't have the best health plan but a cancellation in the mail that's come recently, will you take that out on mccauliffe? republicans will win new jersey. christie will win. could they pull off the sweep? that would be huge. that's what democrats are worried about. in all likelihood a split. you never know. this is a tight race. no doubt about it. >> the president offering help. even through 2014 vulnerable democrats.

good, bad for them? >> i think it depends, neil. th like senator mark pryor won't invite president obama down but president obama is going into new orleans. i would expect mary landrieu will be there and landrieu voted for the budget. she's defended obama care. she needs to get a large turnout on the african-american voters to win. i think it's going to vary state to state and depends on where obama's approval ratings are a year from now. right now in the mid 40s. obama care is a train wreck next year, fewer candidates will ask him to come to their state. >> thank you very much. it all comes down to tuesday, right? we're all over it again. our coverage on fox business network kicks off the second the polls close at 8:00 p.m. we'll stay on as long as it takes. the implications of this race in new jersey certainly as we just mentioned in virginia.

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all right. we just got halloween done with. right now walmart is jump-starting the holiday shopping. it's kicking off a bunch of online deals today and the world's largest retailer not the only one. to fox business network, retail expert, we can shop and

everything. >> here's what's also going on. six fewer shopping days between thanksgiving and christmas on top of that, we've got wall street houses like morgan stanley saying this is going to be one of the weakest holiday shopping seasons. >> how do they know? >> they're tracking retail disclosures. they are pretty accurate. what we see right now are hitting the promotional panic button early? we saw kmart and toys "r" us out. now walmart at midnight tonight tripled the number of deals on walmart's own website. you'll see the 42-inch screen tv 30% lower at 299 bucks. cheaper tablets. all coming on the website. >> discounting the ipad. >> yes. >> i always wonder wther you're front loaded and rob peter to pay paul and get early sales but it's exhausted by the end of the christmas season and you really haven't gained anything. >> for the retailers themselves

in terms of performance on wall street, are they pulling sales early in the door? yeah. the thing is this is again a month before cyber-monday and a month before black friday. that's the worry on wall street that's what they're doing. they're pulling sales early into their earnings. depending on where their quarter ends. we see data coming in and intense discounting going on on the part of retailers, you have to say why do they do it? truly because it's a week less worth of shopping or a bad holiday season coming up? that truly is a fear. possibly the first since 2008 and 2009 at the height of the crisis. that's the talk on wall street. >> who would know it better than you? scary smart. scary smart. she predicted 100-year war. >> it was 116 by the way. >> who's counting? >> see what i mean? nancy says the cupboard is bare for cuts.

the government paid 23 million in medicare benefits to dead patients in 2011. 29 million for drug benefits for illegal immigrants over three years. this is just the waste we need to know about. looking at those numbers, maybe the cupboard is bare because we keep doing stuff like that, that's neither here nor there. what's the make of this? >> it's a very difficult assertion from nancy pelosi to say the cupboard is bare when we spend 3.5 trillion in our budget and 1 trillion dollars debt spending. in all of that spending it's hard to believe there's nowhere to cut. >> here's what i find startling in this whole thing is that if you can argue with the record amount of tax revenue the government had coming in this year, it's obviously not the money coming in that's the problem. it's that to keep up with spending it can't and that's the problem. so they look at the leadership

among democratic party that we don't really have to do much about spending. we're spent looking after spending. what we have to do is get more taxes to pay for that spending. that to me seems upside down. what do you make of all this? >> no matter how you spend it in a federal budget that big, you would hope that republicans and democrats could at least agree to get rid of some of the wasteful spending. the fraud and abuse that target things like $23 million in medicare benefits to dead people. senator coburn's office does a great service putting together a waste book every year. last year in 2012 his waste book detailed $18 billion in government spending on projects that everyone should agree are not a good use of taxpayer dollars. there's room for cutting. it's a very difficult thing again to defend that the cupboard is bare. >> i don't see an appetite for big cutting when it's paul ryan and these other 20 senators and representatives meeting to go through what the arguing points will be. they're not talking about

anything grand. so obviously we're punting again. >> exactly. lots of politicians on both sides of the aisle like to give lip service to the issue of cutting back on waste. really cutting down on that fraud and abuse like i mentioned. when medicaid is a program for example that government accountability office has ranked as high error risk program instead of actually reigning in the error and looking at the billions of dollars in fraudulent payments in a program like medicaid, we're going in the opposite direction and expanding medicaid in many states. this is a mistake to keep bloating government when so much goes to people who aren't eligible. >> we are getting word that the associated press that law enforcement officials identified that lax shooter as 23-year-old paul -- talk of whether he was part of the tsa. that's not been confirmed. the only known fatality here is the 23 year old himself.

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>> what was that song? you have to shop around. the president is telling americans looking to replace health plans to just shop

around. >> so if you are getting one of these letters, just shop around in the new marketplace. that's what it's for. >> i think when you pull on your ear you're telling us -- any way. that implies there's competition in the new health care exchanges so you can shop around. as foxnews.com kate rogers discovered, it's just not happening. what's going on? >> in certain areas across the country, regions and states, their exchanges only have one insurance company actually offering plans to consumers there. >> so you can't shop? >> you definitely can't shop. so certain areas the kaiser foundation provided me with this data. it's happening in rural areas with smaller populations to begin with and were less competitive in the first place. then this new law kicked in with all of its regulations and insurance companies are just saying this isn't beneficial for us and it's not good business for us to actually list here. >> are those substandard insurance companies? what are they?

>> one example that kaiser gave me was in texas. blue cross blue shield of texas is offering individual plans in that state and multiwrite plpla. blue cross blue shield of texas is still one company. it doesn't really have the incentive to offer competitive pricing because it's operating under one umbrella. even though within the exchange and within the product that that insurance company is offering to you, there are tiered levels of plans all of the way from bronze up to platinum. >> i know we're still in the early throes of this. they say it will all work out. the folks you hear like the young woman we had earlier in the broadcast paying through the nose for a new policies, those will be proven to be super minority. what does your gut say? >> that's tough. you hear tons of different things today. we were discussing the manhattan institute has a report out that 93 million people who have employer sponsored plans are now

going to be losing their coverage. i think that group was -- >> what was the argument for that? i saw that. i said it can't be right. is it the employers realizing it's too expensive to carry coverage and throw them on exchanges? >> exactly. the exchange is a way for them to fall back on it. that's an option that wasn't necessarily there before. the administration says 15 million people. manhattan institute said 93 million people. the truth is somewhere between those two numbers. that's a ton of people. >> the early signs of this when ibm and time warner and big companies do that with their existing retirees, it's not a leap to say other companies do that as well. and then work down the food chain to active workers. >> it's a cost cutting measure. everyone is scared about the cost of this law and impact on workers and budgets and all that. >> if they all do it at once sometimes benefits are a big reason why young people like yourself will choose one company

over another. because benefits package is great. companies save a lot of money. >> benefits are a recruiting tool. that's not necessarily their anymore. >> i just found out here the other anchors are paid. it's ridiculous. kate, thank you very, very much. meanwhile, it is no wonder we still have no clear number on how many people have signed up for this thing. we go right to ed henry who knows this stuff and maybe can enlighten us. ed? >> reporter: the early draft at least suggests that on day one, october 1st, only six people enrolled in these insurance exchanges. the white house is pushing back because this is a release by republican darrell issa saying he was cherry picking numbers, et cetera. we should point out these draft figures come from the health and human services department's own

war room. these are their notes from meetings they were having that first week. they were released by darrell issa, a frequent critic of the administration. he basically said today why doesn't the administration then if they are worried about how it's being released, put out the real enrollment numbers. >> i'm sorry. if you spend 600 million on your signature legislation and you have internal numbers and you're not willing to give external numbers, what you're doing is the kind of propaganda this administration has done since day one. >> jay carney pushed back on all this saying they knew numbers would be bad at the beginning and obviously that was exacerbated by the fact the website was not working well. they think the website is getting better now and as people shop around as you were just talking about over time they are actually going to start enrolling but on the question of why they haven't released some of their own numbers, here's what he said. >> why don't you at least put out a reasonable preliminary

number and show us some transparency. >> we'll have a reasonable accurate number as we promised we would on a monthly basis consistent with the data release that you see for other programs. and the focus here -- for understandable reasons, i guess, is on how low the number might be and i think -- listen to me now. they were always going to be low. enrollment figures for the first one. that's how enrollment periods work. >> that first month is up. here we are november 1st. where are those numbers? jay kacarney says they need abo two more weeks to make sure they all are in. the numbers for october the white house says will be out in the middle of november. neil? >> i'm curious. i think you were at another network at the time but do you think in retrospect -- i don't want to dabble in personal

opinion here but that all of these problems, the fact that many might not have coverage or delay in coverage or transitioning to more expensive coverage, if they knew that there would be cases like that, he kinds of low balled it saying there would be cases, a few, this thing would have even passed even among democrats? >> reporter: it's hard to say now. steny hoyer, a democratic leader in the house, said this past week that certainly the president could have been more clear about exactly how he was selling this. for a democrat to say this, that suggests some things would have been changed but moving forward and not just looki ining backwa. do you have democrat max baucus not just any democrat, chairman of the senate finance committee, very influential in all this. he has kathleen sebelius coming to his committee next week. he said in a local radio interview in montana that he's not thinking that maybe the fines will have to be delayed because people are not able to

enroll. now, if you have a senior democrat like that suggesting that that may be the case, he's retiring. not up for re-election in 2014. not just political pressure back home. suggesting there's no pressure on the wo hite house to tweak ts law. >> the website wants your personal information. what if i told you that people fixing it, you know, they already have it.

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neil, back to you. >> we're fill following this health care crisis. is your info in trouble? according to health and human services internal investigation in june it was and maybe still is. the company in charge of fixing the healthcare.gov devices allowed personal devices to be connected to servers with access to millions of medicare patients personal data. that has a tech analyst wondering if anyone can be trusted on this project if everyone is hopping on this project. it's a little disconcerting. what happened? >> we all learned our lesson from allowing people with thumb drives into sensitive areas. if edward snowed isn't a lesson, i don't know what is. this is a bad example. it's bad for the people who work there because this is about audit and accountability. this is about teaching people about security. the first line of information security and cybersecurity are the people who were actually using the systems.

without that, you have a free and open system. this is not indicative and would not instill confidence in me if i look at you securing my policy for the largest collection of identifiable information at this point. >> here's where i'm confused. maybe i'm just slow. they are attaching devices. what are they doing with those devices? are they downloading? what? >> a lot of folks will use resources at their work to mimic things they do at home. i'll plug in an ipod. i'll plug in a usb because i'm using documents at home and at work. what they don't understand is at home you don't have the same security policies, the same network security, you can introduce viruses, trojans, back doors. we saw the report that came in on chinese people liberation army. they used the same techniques of malware and other types of viruss to break into systems and compromise systems and medicare, medicaid systems have lots of personally identifiable information.

it's the gold standard for identity theft. >> so how much of this stuff do you think has been corrupted already? >> you know, we don't know what we don't know at this point. unless you have a lot of good transparency and disclosure and unless you audit it, someone has to audit data and audit the systems and look at records and compare those against known records to say is there any differences or any damage? you get to a point to where there is so much data out there, you don't know where to start. it's a daunting task but that's why you have to lay the proper security foundation from the minute you start building these systems and train your people. >> morgan, thank you. i guess. >> sorry. >> thank you, my friend. earlier in the show you heard a breast cancer survivor describing how she lost her health care plan because of the president's law. she's not alone. not by a long shot. john roberts has been digging into this. when john roberts digs into something, it's like a dog with a bone. he has some wild stuff. john? >> we've got a very big shovel.

you need one around here. we know from industry experts as many as 10 million people could get kicked out of their current health care plans. the president as you pointed out earlier in your fine program told people to shop around. that's what betsy has been doing. she's from rockton, illinois. she's a dental assistant and administrator. she got a notice in the mail that her current plan is being canceled because it does not include obama care mandated maternity coverage. she's 52 years old. she says she doesn't need maternity coverage. she was told to find a comparable plan to the one she has, her premiums would double. she went on the obama care website to find something she could afford. >> there is a policy on the website i could stretch my budget for and afford it at $541 a month but the deductible with that plan is $12,700. i can't afford a deductible of $12,700 if something should happen to us. >> so she's going to have no

choice as of january 1st other than to let her coverage lapse, roll the dice, pay the fine and hope for the best for her family. same thing with kay joiner. a small business owner in griffin, georgia, south of atlanta. recently got a notification that his policy premiums would increase by 70%. he couldn't find figure that he could afford. he's out there trying to make ends meet and create jobs and says that health insurance may be an expense he cannot afford. >> it was going to be well over 400 a month. i'm a single individual. i've got a business to run. i've got eight employers. i have to make payroll every week and pay for fuel and other things for my company. it wasn't going to work at that high price. >> don't forget, both of these people like the insurance that they had. they both make too much money to qualify for subsidies under obama care but not enough money

they can afford health insurance, neil? >> thank you, john, very, very much. it is now official. it is a mess. here's what scandalous. they knew all along. 24/7. i'm sorry, i'm just really reluctant to try new things. really? what's wrong with trying new things? look! mommy's new vacuum! (cat screech) you feel that in your muscles? i do... drink water. it's a long story. well, not having branches let's us give you great rates and service. i'd like that. a new way to bank. a better way to save. ally bank. your money needs an ally.

finally, if a cover-up is worse than the crime, why not just fess up and state the obvious? it is time for the president to just admit the health care law isn't what he promised. no, we can't all keep our doctor. no, we won't all be better off. some of us will pay a lot more and quite rightly believe we've been had. that's clear. just as it's clear after three years to get this up and running, the whole health care law is all but down and sputtering. millions of americans who can't log on and those who finally do

opting out. young people who say this thing doesn't cut it. average families who desperately need some coverage, so they cut something else just to get it. the full-time workers made part-time. the part-time workers now working none of the time. retirees who felt protected and policies their companies still offered now thrown on to exchanges because those companies aren't offering them anymore. exchanges that don't exchange information. when they do, it's often the wrong information. privacy invasions run rampant. doctors running for cover. it is natural for the president to dismiss such hiccups, to focus on coverage for those with pre-existing conditions and leave out the detail of paying through the nose to cover those conditions. after all, it makes more sense to talk up your kids staying on your policy well into their mid-20s than ever address the anemic economic recovery that keeps those kids still living with their parents well past their mid-20s. that's what happens when you leave out the bad stuff. pretty soon, mr. president,

you're the one who's stuffed. what will be the fallout? we might get our earliest read next tuesday. key elections in some key states. not to mention new york city. that could be an early reading on how folks are reacting to all these health care messes. tuesday, on fbn, beginning at 8:00, to as long as it takes. just like we've done all the time ipast. then i'm thinking to myself, people might not be able to get this because they don't have fbn. and that would be a horrific development. not to get our unique read on the races in virginia, in new jersey, in new york city and scores of others. big ballot initiatives. those people are in a big pickle, you know. >> they're going to have to demand it. >> what if they don't demand it? what if they act like you and just say pretty please? >> ain't going to work. >> so what's the demeanor,

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hello, everyone. i'm andrea tantaros. it's 5:00 in new york city and this is "the five." billions of americans are visiting healthcare.gov, which is great news. unfortunately, the site was only designed to handle six users at a time. >> who would have guessed that "saturday night live" was so prophetic? they were right on the mark. >> the website launched on tuesday. publicly, the government said there were 4.7 million unique visits in the first 24 hours. but at a meeting wednesday morning,